Drive shaft 105

Great, many thanks for all your efforts!





I now know the dimensions: 30,2/40,0/0,3 mm and even the part number!





Now I have good hopes in finding the correct washers here.

Its on stock, if you can not get it there, I see no proble to post it.





Download you copy of 110R parts catalogue at http://web.daves.cz/index2.php?s=2&ses_id_lang=1&i=240

I guess 110319511

Has anyone please got the dimensions of these washers?


Inside and outside in mm.


Or does somebody know the part number?





Thanks!

Hi Bart,





no. 11 is only tin bearing cover with the oil seal inserted inside it - You do not need to remove it when you put spacing washers I thing. You can put a little of vaseline on the brake drum hub - stick the washer (them) there and slide it carefully on the cone of the driving shaft through the parts no.11 and 9 to the bearing.





The tightening moment for big nut on the shaft is realy 200Nm plus - You need to align the crown nut with hole in the thread of the shaft and insert pin lock.

Yes, you are completely right at all.





Imho it is not washer in front of 11, just the bearing house looks that way. Its one part.

The no 11. is a bearing cover, which fixes the bearing inside the flanch of the shaft tube.

Thanks! So if I understand from all the advices, I have to remove the brake drum and than the part holding the bearing in place (no.11) and subsequently fit 1 or 2 washers (like no.10)?


No. 9 is a rubber oilseal isn\'t it?


By the way, what\'s that washer in front of the bearing house (no.11) doing?

I\'ll make an appointment with my garage as soon as possible as they have a special Skoda hub puller and probably also some 0,3mm washers.


If everything is o.k. again I let you all know this off course.

Yes, the moment should be around 200Nm for this type of axle.





300-500Nm is used for trail axle (130, Rapid).

RST+Mirek+Eidy,klobouk dolu,jste borci,že mu dokážete poradit,tátá mi dycky říkal uč se a já neposlouchal.

In technical literature is writen that tightening torque is from 170 up to 220Nm. 300Nm is too much by my opinion.

The spacing washer has number 10 in the pict 2. I can measure the inner diameter (I have old drive shaft in my garage) but later. Somebody can be faster. If You will search for substitution, it must be very hard and durable!

Yes, You are right in your thinking. Skoda services adviced to insert one 0,3mm spacing washer every disassembly of the brake drum because of this. But only up to total 3 disassembly. Then they adviced to take appart whole shaft and to slide the ring back (approx. 2mm). Praxis is a little different especially affter many years of using this cars. I am not sure if it is possible to buy these washers. Probably not. But it is necessary to keep watching and have this joint (almost) without clearance. 0,5mm is not too much - for sure You should check it with others. But better is to take it appart.





The big nut is necessary to tight with force of 250-300Nm because of cone joint. If the clearance is on this cone joint - it is very

inside diameter must be the same as in the bearing and outside is about 10mm bigger. But I hope that somebody will measure it and give exactly numbers. Good luck with Skoda car.

My local Skoda garage told me that the brake drum needs to skimmed on the conical inside so it can be fitted further on the drive shaft and the nut can be tightened more.


Your advices however make more sense and seem much more practical to me!


Knowledge on these cars is rare here (Netherlands), it\'s always good to hear advice from people who know a lot more about it.





Thus I suppose Í have to fit 2 X 0,3 washers - do you perhaps now the in-outside diameter of the rings needed so I can find some here.





Thanks again!

Thanks very much for all your helpful advices and clarifications!





If this is indeed my problem I then wonder how I suddenly got this play.


Both brake drums were removed to fit new brake shoes and it could well be that the drive shaft has been stretched a little.


Could this be possible?

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Hi Bart,


RST´s answer is 100 percent correct. I would like to add two schematic pictures for your better imaginationation about that "mysterious" ring (red arrows). The ring has also one more function - sealing.

Hi Bart,


There is a ring fixed on the shaft to fit the bearing on the place. The drum is then tightened on the conus and pulled with the nut against the bearing and ring. The ring could be moved with the force on the shaft and the shaft then can move in the bearing. It is your 0,5mm free movement. You can use the washers (they are supported in the 0,3mm thickness) to eliminate the play. The washers are between the drum and the bearing.


There is also more difficult possibility to eliminate the play - to move the ring back, in direction outside the shaft. You need to disassembly the shaft assy and usig a press move the ring.

Sorry that I don\'t speak/understand any Czech... so if anybody could help me in English or German that would be great!








I would please ask for some advice on a 1987 S105.





Leftside rear driveshaft has a play of 0,5 mm when pulling the brake drum in/out.


The central nut can\'t be tightened anymore.


Looks like the driveshaft is stretched after removing the brake drum.





Does anyone know what the source of the problem can be and what the solution is?


Thanks!